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well....very good points...with the rain dance, you would have to wait the turn, allowing pidgoet to hit with u-turn switching(im guessing here) to dragonite... allowing you to bring in the onslaught of physical atk moves.. starmie most likely would have died with u-turn...so your other 2 pkmn would have no chance against dragonite.. weavile might have a speed and atk advantage, but that just leaves 2 other pkmn to come in and beat yours....very nice and thought out dusknoir :D
WOW! That's so interesting, that i got tired of reading it!
posted at 05/28/09 02:17 -- 3 minutes, 1 second since previous post
That all depends on if U-turn kills Starmie, TR. Also, I would be expecting a switch, and would use Ice Beam to cripple his pokemon instead of using rain dance. It's not like I would AUTOMATICALLY use rain dance at the start of a battle!



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posted at 05/28/09 02:22 -- 5 minutes, 2 seconds since previous post
u also got remember that most likely, ice beam would not kill dragonite in 1 hit, thats IF starmie didnt go BLEH....but dusknoir still got my side on this :P
WOW! That's so interesting, that i got tired of reading it!
posted at 05/28/09 02:24 -- 1 minute, 54 seconds since previous post
Post last edited on 05/28/09 02:25 by doompath220
Well, like dusknoir44 said - paper is paper, and battling is something completely different. I never said ice beam would kill dragonite in one hit. It'll probably take 2, depending on special defense EV's



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posted at 05/28/09 03:15 -- 50 minutes, 50 seconds since previous post
Wow you guys are getting really excited about this. I can't wait for the first of June to roll by, that way we can get this thing started.
Doom, am I to expect your brother to join in on the tournament as well?
Also I realize the main weakness in that team, but I wouldn't really put up my real team(s) that would be used in the tournament. I was just hoping to get some help with that one. That is my hit hard and get lucky team.
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posted at 05/28/09 03:22 -- 6 minutes, 47 seconds since previous post
Ahhhh...

And NO; my brother doesn't own a pokemon game, he's just on here to bug me, which is obviously working. He hates pokemon and would never dare to buy a game.



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posted at 05/28/09 03:30 -- 8 minutes, 14 seconds since previous post
Older or younger brother?
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posted at 05/28/09 03:35 -- 5 minutes, 18 seconds since previous post
younger - 16 months



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posted at 05/28/09 10:42 -- 7 hours, 7 minutes since previous post
Post last edited on 05/28/09 10:43 by Dusknoir44
Is Aerodactyl legal? If so...muahaahah
posted at 05/28/09 12:26 -- 1 hour, 43 minutes since previous post
Yes, yes it is... And an easy counter, as well!



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posted at 05/28/09 20:32 -- 8 hours, 5 minutes since previous post
heh you'd think that wouldn't you, I have a suprise pokemon that will be counterless, i assure you.
posted at 05/28/09 20:49 -- 17 minutes, 10 seconds since previous post
Counterless? The only 2 that I know of that way are Wobba and Wynaut. Guess I'll have to wait and see the "counterless" pokemon. I'm assuming you have WIFI now?



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posted at 05/28/09 20:56 -- 6 minutes, 59 seconds since previous post
No not yet ^^ but if worse comes to worse than i'll post my team and have someone be a sereget of sorts.
posted at 05/28/09 21:13 -- 16 minutes, 45 seconds since previous post
Post last edited on 05/28/09 21:13 by doompath220
Sorry to hear that man - I was looking forward to a challenge. I always love competition, but can never get anyone to battle, 'cause they don't play pokemon. Besides, I really wanted to see this "Ultimate Team" for myself, to see if it really is as good as you say.

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Obviously, I didn't think the first 3 pokemon were that way, but maybe the last 3 were perfect counters to those that you listed. This way, I would've come up with a team just for the first 3, and be totally unprepared for the last ones. I'm guessing that Aerodactyl is in your team, from the posts you made. Still an easy counter - using a bulky pokemon for defense, like Swampert, surviving all your attacks, and easily wiping you out with waterfall.

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Long, I know:

Quote from Smogon:
Counters

Swampert is arguably the best Aerodactyl counter; with a resistance to Aerodactyl's STAB Rock paired with high Defenses to avoid taking significant damage from everything else. It can hit back with Hydro Pump or Waterfall. Other bulky grounds such as Donphan and Hippowdon can generally switch in with little or no risk, but take considerably more than Swampert from Aqua Tail. Gliscor is in a similar boat, but also has to watch out for Ice Fang. Rhyperior and Claydol can't take multiple Aqua Tails, but they makes a good switch into the Choice Band set as long as you can avoid that attack.

Bulky Fighting types can switch into Aerodactyl relatively easily, fearing only the rare Aerial Ace. Machamp and Hariyama are the two most common 'bulky fighters' in OU that can come into Aerodactyl and force it out, though the less common Poliwrath and Hitmontop (particularly those with Intimidate) can work just as well. Bronzong dislikes Fire Fang and Fire Blast, but takes laughable damage from everything else and can generally survive two Fire attacks anyway to OHKO Aerodactyl with Gyro Ball. Weezing can switch in without much risk and either burn Aerodactyl with Will-o-Wisp or threaten it with Thunderbolt. Some of the more physically defensive bulky waters can also switch in and force Aerodactyl out, most notably Suicune and Slowbro, who can both easily survive two Choice Band boosted Stone Edges and threaten Aerodactyl with Surf. Cresselia can switch in without much risk on any move and either cripple Aerodactyl with Thunder Wave or 2HKO it with Ice Beam. Scizor, while not resisting Aerodactyl's attacks, packs reasonable defense and can dispatch Aerodactyl swiftly with its Bullet Punch, as long as it stays away from Aerodactyl's Fire-type attacks.

While it is not a direct counter, Stealth Rock will greatly cut Aerodactyl's lifespan, limiting its potential switch-in opportunities yet further.



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posted at 05/28/09 22:01 -- 47 minutes, 52 seconds since previous post
Post last edited on 05/28/09 22:04 by Dusknoir44
Hehe, the one thing you never do before a battle is antisipate. Pick your best and don't worry about the opponents team, variable change is huge, I might say that im walking in with an Aerodactyl and then pull out an Electivire, the truth is you have absolutely no way of knowing. The only reason im telling you this before the tourney is becuase i really don't want to give you extra work. Take a lesson from somone who has tried it, don't make your team based on someone elses just put your team together and let it run. What i have just done is made you show me your hand, THAT is why my team is unbeatable, not becuase they are good but becuase i always know what is coming...pretty cool trick huh?

Baisicly i played you, now you know not to make that mistake again.

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I can now make YOUR team from what you have told me, and definatly counter it would you like to see? I even have the traits you plan on using
posted at 05/28/09 22:54 -- 53 minutes, 48 seconds since previous post
I understand. I just got carried away. I already have a team set, and am not changing it. Whatever I say here has nothing to do with this team - it has been beaten, but only once, because my touch screen on my old DS always screwed up. This team has been around since I got diamond, and has only changed a little.

We could sit here and type away, making counters for each of our opponent's counters, and go on forever. However, none of it really matters - each of us just have to make our own teams, and hope for the best. It doesn't matter if you have aerodactyl or electrode, or both - whatever you choose is what I'll go up against, regardless of previous knowledge. I do have to say, though - telling your team to the enemy, having them tell you their counter team, and coming in with a counter of your own... Interesting.



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posted at 05/29/09 00:17 -- 1 hour, 22 minutes since previous post
Post last edited on 05/29/09 00:17 by Dusknoir44
Well, I just realized i don't even have my platinum anymore, so i'm definatly out this time, however i'm more than happy to give people pokemon/ideas/movesets if they want them. Just ask.
posted at 05/29/09 00:32 -- 15 minutes, 29 seconds since previous post
Don't have it? What did you do; lose it, let someone borrow it, give it away, or the worst thing yet: SELL IT?



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posted at 05/29/09 00:50 -- 18 minutes, 25 seconds since previous post
Post last edited on 05/29/09 00:51 by Dusknoir44
I let some noob borrow it and he saved over my file >=( do you have an AIM account?
posted at 05/29/09 03:18 -- 2 hours, 28 minutes since previous post
Dude, that sucks. I would be so mad at that kid if it was me. What did you to to him/her?
When you see yourself in a mirror do you see the good side or the bad side

Platinum FC: 3867 5292 3978 Tom

Check out my youtube channel www.youtube.com/xVampsxx
I'll have some pkm related videos up soon.
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